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it would just say when they do the federal government has to recognize them. the other is a challenge to proposition 8 in california. that's the voter passed initiative that barred same-sex marriage in that state. now, that law was overturned, prop 8 was, by a federal appeals court that said you can't give a right and then take it away like this. if the supreme court does nothing more than uphold that ruling, it would apply only to california. so it may or may not get to the fundamental question about whether all states have to allow same-sex couples to get married. it could use the prop 8 case to reset question, but it doesn't necessarily have to. we're going to wait and see how broadly the supreme court wants to delve into this. >> how long do we have to wait before we see? >> they'll argue the case in march. we won't get the answer until late june. >> pete williams, always good to see you. >>> that's going to wrap up this hour of "jansing & co." >>> we are also covering marriage equality with equality matters. also on our agenda, wheels up. the president st
it would just say when they do the federal government has to recognize them. the other is a challenge to proposition 8 in california. that's the voter passed initiative that barred same-sex marriage in that state. now, that law was overturned, prop 8 was, by a federal appeals court that said you can't give a right and then take it away like this. if the supreme court does nothing more than uphold that ruling, it would apply only to california. so it may or may not get to the fundamental...
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quote, liberty protects the person from unwarranted government intrusions. freedom extends upon spatial bounds. liberty presumes an autonomy of self that includes freedom of thought, belief, expression, and certain intimate conduct. the defendants are adults, and their conduct was in private and consensual, and, quote, to declare the issue as one related to the right to engage in certain sexual conduct demeans the claim the individual put forward. so could it happen? could it happen next year? that the supreme court declare it is unconstitutional to deny people of the same sex the right to marry? what a question, what a story. joining me now is the president of the human rights campaign, chad griffin, and gay rights advocate elizabeth birch. i hope i set it up as best i could. i can't write the majority opinion next year. i think i know what the majority opinion should look like. your thoughts? >> i couldn't have said it better, chris. it really is an incredible day today, that the supreme court is taking the prop 8 case, the perry case, as well as the doma
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it's to have the federal government recognize her legal marriage. >> right. >> vis-a-vis the internal revenue service. because when her partner of 42 years died, she owed $363,000 in federal estate taxes that she would not have to pay if her spouse had been a man. >> and that's a great point because she was legally married in canada, lived in a state that marriage equality is legal. so we're not asking in this case for them to affirm the marriage. it's just for them to affirm where she is legally married that the federal government has to respect that, rich around. >> yes, that's true. but i think that the big picture we want to emphasize today is that we are at the beginning of the end of this struggle perhaps. >> right. >> and that these cases are perhaps among the most historic that any of these justices will ever decide because they are defining right before our very eyes what it means to be an american, what rights do you have as an american and as you so eloquently said at the introduction to this segment, this is what we are about. in june we are going to hear from the supreme
it's to have the federal government recognize her legal marriage. >> right. >> vis-a-vis the internal revenue service. because when her partner of 42 years died, she owed $363,000 in federal estate taxes that she would not have to pay if her spouse had been a man. >> and that's a great point because she was legally married in canada, lived in a state that marriage equality is legal. so we're not asking in this case for them to affirm the marriage. it's just for them to affirm...
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what they came up with, they called the government accountability board. remember during the recall effort for scott walker in the state? remember when they turned in a million signatures to start that recall? it was that government accountability board that those signatures got turned in to. that's who received the signatures. that's who had to do the counting. and in the interests of transparency, the board set up a 24-hour web cam so, anybody could see at any time of day or night what they were doing with those million signatures. and while elections themselves are exciting and competitions between competing ideas and competing entities are exciting things, and there can be a ton of energy around the democratic process, the literal process of making sure that the i's are dotted and the t's are crossed and the forms are counted right and the things are all filled in, that is not exciting. that in fact should be this boring on purpose. and if the web cam was any judge, this really was that boring. day and night it looked like this. you know, you don't wan
what they came up with, they called the government accountability board. remember during the recall effort for scott walker in the state? remember when they turned in a million signatures to start that recall? it was that government accountability board that those signatures got turned in to. that's who received the signatures. that's who had to do the counting. and in the interests of transparency, the board set up a 24-hour web cam so, anybody could see at any time of day or night what they...
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that really is the federal government stepping somewhere where it hasn't before. what they have done with that statute is say people can't have thousands of federal benefits. the case before the supreme court involves a woman who had to pay $363,000 in estate taxes she wouldn't have had to pay just because the person she was married to was the same gender as herself. it's fairness but limbed to that one state. >> patricia, always good to see you. thanks for weighing in. >> thank you. >> the deadline for the fiscal cliff is just over three weeks away. lawmakers are still mired in part in gridlock, each side saying the other is to blame. what do their constituents think? cnbc says 21% would blame the president, 23% blame republicans, 52 blame each equally. oversight and reform committees, thanks for being here. good to have you. these new job numbers, does this give the president a better position on the fiscal cliff talks? >> i don't think it changes very much. it's part of a continuing trend we've seen over the last three or four years, very steady but moderate jo
that really is the federal government stepping somewhere where it hasn't before. what they have done with that statute is say people can't have thousands of federal benefits. the case before the supreme court involves a woman who had to pay $363,000 in estate taxes she wouldn't have had to pay just because the person she was married to was the same gender as herself. it's fairness but limbed to that one state. >> patricia, always good to see you. thanks for weighing in. >> thank...
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states began prohibiting alcohol before the federal government passed the constitutional amendment to do so. and once prohibition was the law of the land, through that constitutional amendment, it was actually states that first began breaking that consensus by basically, in opposition to the federal government, essentially legalizing alcohol. there is a similar movement happening now, happening tomorrow, actually. and 50 years from now or 80 years from now, we may look back on december 6th, 2012, on tomorrow, as an equally epoch ral moment, as the end of prohibition 2.0. tomorrow washington state will begin the process of implementing the most liberal marijuana regime in the world, along with colorado. on election day this year, voters in both colorado passed ballot initiatives legalizing react rational use of pot. in washington, as of tomorrow, it will no longer be against the law to have in your possession up to an ounce of marijuana if you are over the age of 21. that happens tomorrow in washington state. there are many, many unanswered questions as to how this will work in the act
states began prohibiting alcohol before the federal government passed the constitutional amendment to do so. and once prohibition was the law of the land, through that constitutional amendment, it was actually states that first began breaking that consensus by basically, in opposition to the federal government, essentially legalizing alcohol. there is a similar movement happening now, happening tomorrow, actually. and 50 years from now or 80 years from now, we may look back on december 6th,...
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hoffman, did you try to sell government secrets? just a big smirky smile from hoffman, who retired a year ago and is trained as a navy cryptologic technician. he is able to find submarines using sophisticated direction-finding technology. the indictment reads hoffman had access to top-secret information which could cause exceptionally grave damage to national security. on october 21st, hoffman is accused of delivering secret information to people he believed to be officials with the russian federation on how to track u.s. submarines using the technology he learned on the job working for the navy. the information included the technology and procedures required to find the subs. hoffman delivered that information to fbi agents posing as an undercover operation. >> that was wavy's andy fox reporting. >>> now, this morning's first look at your "dish of scrambled politics." comedian steve colbert of south carolina is ready to replace senator jim demint. oh, are you, now? his publicist in an e-mail saying "stephen is honored by the ground
hoffman, did you try to sell government secrets? just a big smirky smile from hoffman, who retired a year ago and is trained as a navy cryptologic technician. he is able to find submarines using sophisticated direction-finding technology. the indictment reads hoffman had access to top-secret information which could cause exceptionally grave damage to national security. on october 21st, hoffman is accused of delivering secret information to people he believed to be officials with the russian...
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report from the government accountability office concludes if we get rid of the dollar bill, the feds could save $4.4 billion over 30 years. matthew iglesias, good to see you. >> good to be here. >> if the findings are correct, no more paper dollar, $4 billion in savings but you think this equation is flawed, right? >> it's a little bit of a funny situation because they say you'll save money but not because it's cheaper to make the dollar coins than the dollar bills, it's considerably more expensive. the reason the government saves money if we switch to coins people don't like to use the coins and they think they'll pile up in our sock drawers. >> while that's maybe a possibility at the start but look, here is the pros as a lot of people who think this is a good idea see it. first of all, they last a lot longer, i think something like 30 years on average as opposed to dollar bills which last like four to five years, no problems getting a coin for your vending machine and the mining industry, frankly, would benefit big time, so is there at least some merit in eliminating the buck bill?
report from the government accountability office concludes if we get rid of the dollar bill, the feds could save $4.4 billion over 30 years. matthew iglesias, good to see you. >> good to be here. >> if the findings are correct, no more paper dollar, $4 billion in savings but you think this equation is flawed, right? >> it's a little bit of a funny situation because they say you'll save money but not because it's cheaper to make the dollar coins than the dollar bills, it's...
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it's possible we'll see forebearance on the part of the federal government? >> potentially. >> uf been doing phenomenal reporting on this issue. thanks for your time. a crash course is how now level at a time a meal for four people. that's up next. ♪ oh oh, oh, oh ♪ you're wonderful ♪ you have a heart of gold [ male announcer ] vera wang love. the new diamond bridal collection from vera wang. exclusively at zales. this is another! ta-daa! try charmin ultra strong. it cleans so well and you can use up to four times less than the leading value brand. and it's four times stronger. charmin ultra strong. ♪ you can stay in and like something... ♪ [ car alarm deactivates ] ♪ ...or you can get out there with your family and actually like something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. offering some of our best values of the year. those little things for you, life's about her. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadal
it's possible we'll see forebearance on the part of the federal government? >> potentially. >> uf been doing phenomenal reporting on this issue. thanks for your time. a crash course is how now level at a time a meal for four people. that's up next. ♪ oh oh, oh, oh ♪ you're wonderful ♪ you have a heart of gold [ male announcer ] vera wang love. the new diamond bridal collection from vera wang. exclusively at zales. this is another! ta-daa! try charmin ultra strong. it cleans so...
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it's not me. >>> plus, new government warnings, how governments may be collecting large amounts of data on your kids. you're watching "first look" on m s msnbc. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. military families face, we understand. at usaa, we know military life is different. we've been there. that's why every bit of financial advice we offer is geared specifically to current and former military members and their families. [ laughs ] dad! dad! [ applause ] ♪ [ male announcer ] life brings obstacles. usaa brings advice. call or visit us online. >>> some stories making news this morning. "the new york times" re
it's not me. >>> plus, new government warnings, how governments may be collecting large amounts of data on your kids. you're watching "first look" on m s msnbc. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just...
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he took this guy's farmland in scotland with approval of the government. all the locals stood up to him calling him scotsman of the year for standing up to donald trump. >> the can hole with the clown face on it. >> you got it worked out. >> scotland is lucky we stumbled upon this story. >>> up next, steve and i have gotten a lot of feedback on our debate over gun control monday. his response to your responses is next. wasn't my daughter's black bean soup spectacular? [ man thinking ] oh, this gas. those antacids aren't working. oh no, not that, not here! [ male announcer ] antacids don't relieve gas. gas-x is designed to relieve gas. gas-x. the gas xperts. gas-x is designed to relieve gas. social security are just numbers thinkin a budget.d... well, we worked hard for those benefits. we earned them. and if washington tries to cram decisions about the future... of these programs into a last minute budget deal... we'll all pay the price. aarp is fighting to protect seniors with responsible... solutions that strengthen medicare and... social security for gen
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we don't have new money for government to spend on infrastructure. government has to play a role here, but increasingly there's a desire from the private sector from private capital to invest in infrastructure. >> jay, we almost always talk about the developed nations and their economies. when they have problems, when they sneeze, the emerging nations catch the flu, right? they are dealing with the impact of the mistakes or the problems in the developed nations far more, right? >> well, i think that's right, toure. here's the interesting thing about infrastructure. if we do a very serious, large, infrastructure program in the united states over the next couple of years, we do two things. we employ a lot of people and good-paying jobs and near term very low growth. over the median term it helps to protect us and make sure we have the competitive position we need to benefit from the emerging economies in their growth as the emerging middle class in dhichi asia, india and elsewhere comes on stream in 2025. we want to sell into asia. >> all right, jay, t
we don't have new money for government to spend on infrastructure. government has to play a role here, but increasingly there's a desire from the private sector from private capital to invest in infrastructure. >> jay, we almost always talk about the developed nations and their economies. when they have problems, when they sneeze, the emerging nations catch the flu, right? they are dealing with the impact of the mistakes or the problems in the developed nations far more, right? >>...
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it's possible we'll see forbearance on the part of the federal government? >> potentially. >> been doing phenomenal reporting on this issue. thanks for your time. a crash course is how now level at a time a meal for four people. that's up next. [ woman ] too weak. wears off. [ female announcer ] stop searching and start repairing. eucerin professional repair moisturizes while actually repairing very dry skin. the end of trial and error has arrived. try a free sample at eucerinus.com. the end of trial and error has arrived. if we want to improve our schools... ... what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ... nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. than giving her a diamond is surprising her with one. save the surprise. shop online and ship to any zales store free. only at the diamond store. ♪ i'm lost in the light hi, i'm ensure clear
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states are specially, state and local governments are broke. jennifer granholm is throwing subsidies out to people who are going to start movie studios in pontiac. no, it is not going to be a movie studio in pontiac. as soon as we get in the mind-set which are going to be making deals to get jobs, this is what helps to cause this kind of problem. with regulation in general, we think, to answer your question, if we just regulate this, we are going to reduce the influence of corporations being able to write and gain these regulations. unfortunately, it is a perpetual surprise to a lot of aggressives. the more you regulate, especially if the regulations are complicated or kick down a lot of decisions to future regulators like dodd/frank and obama care do, the more they are going to write those rules. >> stay right there. we have more on this, par particularly how states and localities are using these incentives and losing the tax dollars. if there is one thing that should give us reason to worry about our elected leaders, choosing to do the right
states are specially, state and local governments are broke. jennifer granholm is throwing subsidies out to people who are going to start movie studios in pontiac. no, it is not going to be a movie studio in pontiac. as soon as we get in the mind-set which are going to be making deals to get jobs, this is what helps to cause this kind of problem. with regulation in general, we think, to answer your question, if we just regulate this, we are going to reduce the influence of corporations being...
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government sununu said democrats, quote, aggressively got out the base of their base. the base of their base that's dependent, to a great extent, economically on got policy and government programs, seeming to echo governor romney's 47% remarks. that same evening paul ryan appeared to reject governor sununu's comments, though he didn't address them directly. >> these attempts to divide americans into our voters and their voters, let's be really clear, republicans must steer far clear of that trap. >> joining me now, cnbc contributor tony frat owe and former white house deputy press secretary under president george w. bush and managing partner at hamilton place strategies kiki mclean, senior adviser to the 2008 hillary clinton presidential campaign. good morning. >> good morning. >> tony, do republicans sit back and wish governor sununu would quit talking? >> not only is it offensive to a large part of the lack trat, it happens to be wrong. republicans did very well and in fact governor romney did very well among lower income voters. so it's wrong but we shouldn't be tal
government sununu said democrats, quote, aggressively got out the base of their base. the base of their base that's dependent, to a great extent, economically on got policy and government programs, seeming to echo governor romney's 47% remarks. that same evening paul ryan appeared to reject governor sununu's comments, though he didn't address them directly. >> these attempts to divide americans into our voters and their voters, let's be really clear, republicans must steer far clear of...
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>> it's kind of a crisis capitalism in a way or crisis governance. they create an emergency by going over the fiscal cliff, and then they say because we have this big emergency, we need to do drastic things to defund mostly the domestic side of government, turn it over to private industry. whether it's health care or anything else. that's their aim. it's to drown the government in their bathtub as grover norquist famously said. >> i know. that sounds like the late senator moynihan, that the idea of supply side was basically to get rid of so much revenue the it's about torture. many critics say "zero dark thirty" suggests without torture we wouldn't have gotten the guy. but not everyone agrees. that's what the movie's about. it's going to be hot. >>> and the gop's favorite supreme court justice scalia just came out with a sugar plum. here he is. quote, if we cannot have moral feelings against homosexuality, can we have it against murder? can we have it against other things? >> do they really need this? >>> finally, let me finish with the problem with
>> it's kind of a crisis capitalism in a way or crisis governance. they create an emergency by going over the fiscal cliff, and then they say because we have this big emergency, we need to do drastic things to defund mostly the domestic side of government, turn it over to private industry. whether it's health care or anything else. that's their aim. it's to drown the government in their bathtub as grover norquist famously said. >> i know. that sounds like the late senator moynihan,...
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government. that's no way to run the country. >> what do you think the chances of that happening? >> it's possible. one of the things that the republicans might get as part of this package is another opportunity to make their case around the debt ceiling. but there ought to be some limit on it and i like the president's proposal that basically requires a two-thirds vote to overcome the president's decision to raise the debt. that still gives members a chance to weigh in, still requires a vote on the debt limit. it doesn't let lawmakers off the hook but it also means that you can't hold the country's economy and full faith and credit hostage every time you want to demand more in cuts or tax increases. >> congressman adam schiff, thank you. >> let me play for you a little exchange from yesterday. >> is there an objection? >> madam, preserving the right to object. matters of this controversy, what we're talking about is a perpetual debt ceiling grant. >> i guess we have a filibuster of his own bill so i object. >> is there objection to the original request? >> yes, i object. >> objec
government. that's no way to run the country. >> what do you think the chances of that happening? >> it's possible. one of the things that the republicans might get as part of this package is another opportunity to make their case around the debt ceiling. but there ought to be some limit on it and i like the president's proposal that basically requires a two-thirds vote to overcome the president's decision to raise the debt. that still gives members a chance to weigh in, still...
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federal government organizes the exchanges. i have a hunch if some states say this is a terrible idea, we're getting pressure, we want our people to join this market oriented system, maybe they'll give them some time to develop it. but i think in the end, having a strong federal exchange could be the best thing that happens. >> there's a difference between the exchange and the medicaid expansion. as far as medicaid is concerned, if a state decides not to expand medicaid, then that's the decision that stands and the irony is, the states which have the most uninsured people are the ones that would benefit the most. for example, texas has more uninsured people by percentage and in absolute numbers than any other state in the country. you would expect texas to be clamoring for -- to expand medicaid, especially because for the first three years, texas wouldn't even have to pay a penny. but governor perry said no, we want to continue to have the most uninsured people in the country. we're not going to expand medicaid, even if it's no
federal government organizes the exchanges. i have a hunch if some states say this is a terrible idea, we're getting pressure, we want our people to join this market oriented system, maybe they'll give them some time to develop it. but i think in the end, having a strong federal exchange could be the best thing that happens. >> there's a difference between the exchange and the medicaid expansion. as far as medicaid is concerned, if a state decides not to expand medicaid, then that's the...
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the federal government and national politicians are trying to catch up to it. >> you don't think the president went a step further, that it could provide the kind of leadership that would push it further? >> well -- >> he's enforcing doma now. >> he dropped opposition to the case. the president is doing what he can do in the context that he's in. he's also fighting other bigger fights. the challenge for the republicans, though, is going to be this is a big problem with young voters. republicans have got to find their way to get past some of the more backward looking rhetoric they've had for the last couple of elections, start looking forward and appealing to this new class of voters. >> great conversation. thank you, guys. >>> we do expect to learn more details about the oregon mall shooting that left three people dead at a news conference this afternoon. that shooting terrified christmas shoppers and their loved ones, including this mom who was texting with her daughter who was trapped inside. >> i just want to hug her and i want her out. i was like are you still locked up, they hav
the federal government and national politicians are trying to catch up to it. >> you don't think the president went a step further, that it could provide the kind of leadership that would push it further? >> well -- >> he's enforcing doma now. >> he dropped opposition to the case. the president is doing what he can do in the context that he's in. he's also fighting other bigger fights. the challenge for the republicans, though, is going to be this is a big problem with...
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i think that's what our system of government is all about. again, as you pointed out, i proposed this when i was in the minority. and i don't think that the minority has anything to fear. you see, our founders set up a very tough system to get a bill passed. look at it. it has to pass the house. it has to pass the senate. and exactly the same form. so if the house and senate disagree, nothing happens. then it has to survive a presidential veto. and then it has to survive court challenges. this was all set up by our founders. the one -- the one thing they did not set up was that you had to have a super majority in which to pass a piece of legislation. now you and i both know that the drafters of the constitution set out five specific times when the senate must have a super majority, five. it's proving treaties, impeaching a president, that type of thing. so really, by inference, the founders, drafters of our constitution basically said everything else is 51%. passes legislation. >> well, we will see if it ever gets back there in our lifetime.
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these are guys that went to congress not to limit government but to stop it. so what are you going to do? we have five democrats, five republicans that range from dick durbin from illinois and coburn of oklahoma, progressive conservative and five dems, five ren, one independent. that is a super majority. and for god sake, the reason we were so successful is that we effectively pissed off everybody in america. >> congratulations, sir. kudos. kudos to you. >> and there you go. alan simpson painting a bleak picture behind the scenes of the fiscal cliff negotiations. good morning. this is "way too early." thanks for being up with us this morning. we have a lot to get to on this thursday, december 6. >> including president obama actually making his appeal to business leaders on his tax plan. he's now reaching out following a very tough election campaign. >> and overseas, protests get violent in egypt where the once stable nation appears to be on the verge of crisis. first, let's get to the news live at 5:30 here at 30 rock in new york city. we begin with 25 days to
these are guys that went to congress not to limit government but to stop it. so what are you going to do? we have five democrats, five republicans that range from dick durbin from illinois and coburn of oklahoma, progressive conservative and five dems, five ren, one independent. that is a super majority. and for god sake, the reason we were so successful is that we effectively pissed off everybody in america. >> congratulations, sir. kudos. kudos to you. >> and there you go. alan...
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why would you give the federal government more of your money? we all know there is a spending problem. nothing is on the table about significant cuts to balance this budget. i have a plan that would balance the budget in five years. i wish no taxes would go up on any american. i don't think it's good for the economy. but in this case, i think we need to get beyond it and get some certainty out into the economy. >> if boehner comes back and says, okay, i feel like i've cut the best deal i can. i'll vote for this. that's probably something you can support. >> if it truly is the best deal, yes, i will. i have faith, actually, in what speaker boehner is doing. i think he's letting the process work and i think i said it before. the timeline of the holidays and fiscal cliff looming and negotiations will come to a point where there has to be a best point. >> the jet fumes of national airport is the joke, but how big is that christmas holiday, if that is threatened, will that motivate more people to vote for something? >> if you want to see how this vot
why would you give the federal government more of your money? we all know there is a spending problem. nothing is on the table about significant cuts to balance this budget. i have a plan that would balance the budget in five years. i wish no taxes would go up on any american. i don't think it's good for the economy. but in this case, i think we need to get beyond it and get some certainty out into the economy. >> if boehner comes back and says, okay, i feel like i've cut the best deal i...
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and chris chrissie hates big government until chris christie needs big government. christie's moves to the right and center are next. if you are one of the millions of men who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the number one prescribed testosterone replacement therapy. it raises your testosterone levels, and... is concentrated, so you could use less gel. and with androgel 1.62%, you can save on your monthly prescription. [ male announcer ] dosing and application sites between these products differ. women and children should avoid contact with application sites. discontinue androgel and call your doctor if you see unexpected signs of early puberty in a child, or, signs in a woman which may include changes in body hair or a large increase in acne, possibly due to accidental exposure. men with breast cancer or who have or might have prostate cancer, and women who are, or may become pregnant or are breast feeding should not use androgel. serious side
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. >>> overseas now where more massive anti-government protests are occurring in egypt today. the demonstrators say the rallies are a last warning to president morsi over his seizure of almost unrestricted power. and the adoption of a new constitution. about 100,000 people protested. the opposition forces have not yet decided whether to vote no in a constitutional referendum this month or to call for a boycott. >>> this morning u.n. secretary general ban ki-moon hinted he is not in favor of granting asylum to assad if he flees. with the civil war moving in on the capital of damascus, nato has approved turkey's use of the patriot anti-missile system along its border. the move comes amid growing fears syria will attack touree and/or israel, possibly with chemical weapons. >> an update now for you on the condition of the newly pregnant duchess of cambridge who is being treated for severe morning sickness. according to a statement from st. james palace, kate is, quote, continuing to feel better and that she and prince william are immensely grateful for the good wishes they have re
. >>> overseas now where more massive anti-government protests are occurring in egypt today. the demonstrators say the rallies are a last warning to president morsi over his seizure of almost unrestricted power. and the adoption of a new constitution. about 100,000 people protested. the opposition forces have not yet decided whether to vote no in a constitutional referendum this month or to call for a boycott. >>> this morning u.n. secretary general ban ki-moon hinted he is...
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. >> what does the federal government do? >> the federal government considered pot the same as lsd and heroin. >> same classification of drug. >> heroin. i didn't even know heroin still existed. apparently it still does. and pot does, too. the difference is you can grow heroin in your backyard. you can grow it -- >> grow marijuana you mean. >> i'm sorry, grow marijuana in your backyard. >> i don't know that much about heroin but i don't think that's how it works. >> he wants to grow marijuana. okay. >> let me be clear, i didn't make that mistake because i have been smoking anything, i have not, no. it's farcical. this is a generation al issue and the obama administration is going to have to gibe at some point on its theory of law. i think a couple days the u.s. attorney in washington said the federal law trumps what you guys are going. people are going to say no, enough. and the obama administration just started ramping up prosecutions of this. this is unusual for me. >> yeah. do you agree, goldie? >> i do, except heroin is m
. >> what does the federal government do? >> the federal government considered pot the same as lsd and heroin. >> same classification of drug. >> heroin. i didn't even know heroin still existed. apparently it still does. and pot does, too. the difference is you can grow heroin in your backyard. you can grow it -- >> grow marijuana you mean. >> i'm sorry, grow marijuana in your backyard. >> i don't know that much about heroin but i don't think that's how...
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that too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people, they just want what my parents had, a chance. there are millions of mario rubios across america today. they are not looking for a handout. all they want is a job that provides for their families. >> one man is standing by mitt romney. after listening to ryan and rubio's remarks, today rush limbaugh said this. >> one thing i will tell you is that what animated both these guys was romney's 47% comment. the republican party is running away from that. if the people of this country are not -- if a majority are not taught, educated, inspired, motivated to solve their own problems at least in part, nothing is going to change.ç the democratic party is always going to win. we are never going to come man deer the notion that we are the party of government. >> joining me now, msnbc political analyst e.j. dion and richard wolf. i'm so struck seeing paul ryan at the jack kemp dinner. i don't know how you can can idol i idolize
that too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people, they just want what my parents had, a chance. there are millions of mario rubios across america today. they are not looking for a handout. all they want is a job that provides for their families. >> one man is standing by mitt romney. after listening to ryan and rubio's remarks, today rush limbaugh said this. >> one thing i will tell you is that what animated both...
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it's time to govern. the election is over. >> he is a phone call away and you know it. >> he is a phone call away? we will come right down to him. we sent a plan to him and gave him three weeks to respond. he has not sundresponded to our current one. you cannot negotiate with yourself. >> this is the part of the stalemate that people are so uncomfortable with, even if there's more action behind the scenes. congressman, you're a californian. the supreme court is going to take up the issue of same-sex marriage with the prop eight ban in your state as well as the defense of marriage act on the federal level. do you think the days of same-sex marriage being not recognized, unrecognized as a civil right, are coming to an end? >> i think the supreme court will make the decision. prior to this election, every vote has only been it's only made it through by a legislator, not the vote of the people. in california, the people voted it down. we'll see from the supreme court sz. >> how do you see it? >> marriage equa
it's time to govern. the election is over. >> he is a phone call away and you know it. >> he is a phone call away? we will come right down to him. we sent a plan to him and gave him three weeks to respond. he has not sundresponded to our current one. you cannot negotiate with yourself. >> this is the part of the stalemate that people are so uncomfortable with, even if there's more action behind the scenes. congressman, you're a californian. the supreme court is going to take...
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the government certainly wouldn't let you in. but the free syrian army said okay, pass through this checkpoint. >> this time i went to turkey and crossed over the border into rebel-controlled areas. and you pass through turkish immigration and walk through this sort of no man's land. and then the free syrian army folks who look at your passport. they say welcome. and that's about it. then you're in syria. >> and what goes through your mind? you're in syria. that's not a place a lot of people want to be right now. >> look, i spent a lot of my time pretty scared, frankly, reporting in the case of syria i was in an area that was rebel -- clearly rebel controlled. and so it wasn't as risky as it sounds. and people always look at me, my job and think oh, boy how dangerous. meanwhile, i always think of those photographers and camera crews who are out there. i mean when they hear gunfire their rule is to immediately rush toward the gunfire. and my basic rule of traveling in war zones you never accept a ride from a photographer because t
the government certainly wouldn't let you in. but the free syrian army said okay, pass through this checkpoint. >> this time i went to turkey and crossed over the border into rebel-controlled areas. and you pass through turkish immigration and walk through this sort of no man's land. and then the free syrian army folks who look at your passport. they say welcome. and that's about it. then you're in syria. >> and what goes through your mind? you're in syria. that's not a place a lot...
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you must come out of the shadows and register with the government and go through a criminal background check. if you have a criminal background, you get deported. no tolerance for that. after you go to that criminal background check, if you have no criminal background, you must pay back taxes you may have earn and not paid. you must also learn english which is the first time for permanent residency that we require an english language requirement. you must wait your turn as those who have been waiting under the legal process get ultimately appointed first to their permanent residency and you get at the end of the line. if you maintained a good standing in our society during this period of time, you have a chance at permanent residency. >> what about the ideas according to the article that some leaders are perhaps cutting it up into smaller bills. in a sense what we are talking about with the fiscal cliff where there may be a deal on tax rates and later next year deal with entitlements in the deficits and debt ceiling and the other issues facing us. would you support backing away from a
you must come out of the shadows and register with the government and go through a criminal background check. if you have a criminal background, you get deported. no tolerance for that. after you go to that criminal background check, if you have no criminal background, you must pay back taxes you may have earn and not paid. you must also learn english which is the first time for permanent residency that we require an english language requirement. you must wait your turn as those who have been...
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the government is a staunchly secular one. they believe syria is engaged in what they consider a jihad or a holy war, and they're using that to rally muslims from all around the world to come and join the fight. western intelligence sources and others have reported on the participation of fighters from the caucuses, central asia, as well as from iraq and other neighboring countries. there's no doubt it is galvanizing many fighters to come and join what they say is a religious fight against secularism. >> we've heard talk of an increasingly desperate syrian government considering the use of chemical weapons against its own citizens. is this still a possibility or has president obama's warning been taken to heart by the authorities? >> well, it's extremely difficult to ascertain right now whether or not that is going to unfold like that. what we do know from western intelligence officials who have told nbc news is chemical weapons have been mixed at least in various military facilities in and around various parts of syria, but a
the government is a staunchly secular one. they believe syria is engaged in what they consider a jihad or a holy war, and they're using that to rally muslims from all around the world to come and join the fight. western intelligence sources and others have reported on the participation of fighters from the caucuses, central asia, as well as from iraq and other neighboring countries. there's no doubt it is galvanizing many fighters to come and join what they say is a religious fight against...
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not in the state, not to government. again, that gets us towards socialism. what goes beyond socialism is communism. i know i'm going to get slammed for speaking too bluntly about what's going on. >> there's sean hannity getting history lessons from sarah palin. wonderful. >>> next, a bit of the postmortem from "mad men." what romney staffers nicknamed their campaign ad team. minchillo thinks they did a few things right. despite losing the election. first of all, he says, their in-house production operation allowed them to churn out ads in record time. but minchillo also says if you make the chinese news agency angry, i figure you're doing something right. romney drew the wrath of china's news agency for promising to label them a currency manipulator. unfortunately for the mad men, it wasn't just the chinese who were paying attention. a general motors spokesman accused them of entering into a parallel universe with that ad saying jeep was shipping american jobs over to china. >>> finally, a toddler takes in cnbc's fiscal
not in the state, not to government. again, that gets us towards socialism. what goes beyond socialism is communism. i know i'm going to get slammed for speaking too bluntly about what's going on. >> there's sean hannity getting history lessons from sarah palin. wonderful. >>> next, a bit of the postmortem from "mad men." what romney staffers nicknamed their campaign ad team. minchillo thinks they did a few things right. despite losing the election. first of all, he...
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the federal government has taken in taxes that equals 18% of the overall economy. it's 17.8% to be exact. that's become something of a magic number in politics. you tell orrin hatch loves the 18%. if we keep all the bush tax cuts, we stick at that magic number. that means "taxes would still be high enough compared to recent history." across the political spectrum, consider warren buffett and higher taxes for the rich. he wrote "our government's goal should be to bring in 18.5% revenue. he doesn't say. those are levels attained over extended periods in the past. permit me a decent from the or kl of omaha. the average of our past revenue is not sufficient to sustain our future. in fact, it wasn't even enough to support our past. only three times in the past 50 years has the 18% been enough to balance the budget. the only recent balancing came during the clinton era when growth was strong. from 19.5% of the overall economy to 20.6%. by bump. ing along with 18%, we have built the national debt that dominates the political discussion and it's going to get worse if we st
the federal government has taken in taxes that equals 18% of the overall economy. it's 17.8% to be exact. that's become something of a magic number in politics. you tell orrin hatch loves the 18%. if we keep all the bush tax cuts, we stick at that magic number. that means "taxes would still be high enough compared to recent history." across the political spectrum, consider warren buffett and higher taxes for the rich. he wrote "our government's goal should be to bring in 18.5%...
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it's government at the brink all the time. we don't know how the markets and the credit rating agencies will react. probably be bad ybut i think that's what you hear conservatives saying. >> erin, so far wall street for the most part reacting in a calm fashion. we know that could go out the window. no one knows what could happen and how long it would take for us to fall in to a recession. but with that said, our first read team points out you have to know when to hold 'em, when to fold 'em. the song, i'm a texan. he's a texan. did we see this coming all along to see a split dealing with the tax cuts first and then kicking the can as you heard congressman yarmuth say down the road and a.b. pointed out on the other major issues? >> well, for one thing, i would say that it's clearly going to get worse before it gets better. last week looked like potential for a deal sooner. i still think that many people on capital hill think there's potential to get a sizable deal but as you pointed out with rand paul and jim demint, they were n
it's government at the brink all the time. we don't know how the markets and the credit rating agencies will react. probably be bad ybut i think that's what you hear conservatives saying. >> erin, so far wall street for the most part reacting in a calm fashion. we know that could go out the window. no one knows what could happen and how long it would take for us to fall in to a recession. but with that said, our first read team points out you have to know when to hold 'em, when to fold...
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the other thing that will happen with the fiscal cliff is the massive withdraw of government spending and we haven't talked about that as much as taxes. people with less money because of tax cuts going away would have less money to spend into the economy but also the federal government withdrawing federal spending from parts of the economy that are used to getting it, the military, et cetera but other sectors nonmilitary. that's the other piece that could hurt people. >> when we talk about the fiscal cliff and back and forth that is happening between the white house and the hill, i guess i'm confused because on one hand there is a sense that this is all par for the course, they know they're going to get a deal done, it's fine, everything is good and then there's also this sort of the pr blitz which is, we are very far from a deal. this is what ayman alluded to this, the speaker had a press conference a few minutes ago. david axelrod giving his take and john boehner giving his take. let's take a listen. >> you saying then for pr purposes -- >> the president and the speaker are very flu
the other thing that will happen with the fiscal cliff is the massive withdraw of government spending and we haven't talked about that as much as taxes. people with less money because of tax cuts going away would have less money to spend into the economy but also the federal government withdrawing federal spending from parts of the economy that are used to getting it, the military, et cetera but other sectors nonmilitary. that's the other piece that could hurt people. >> when we talk...
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in fact, the government, political leaders and the courts are catching up where the american public is on this issue. >> let's talk about what pete williams was reporting over the weekend. there are as many as 1,000 different benefits denied to gay partners where gay marriage is not allowed. >> that's exactly right. there are rights and benefits and privileges denied to lgbt, gay and lesbian couples, simply because of who they are. edie and her partner together over 40 years and unfortunately when her partner, wife, passed away, she was given a bill by the united states government for over $300,000. >> estate taxes. >> estate taxes. a straight couple would not have received that bill. it's simply unfair. if you look at the plaintiffs in this case, chris and sandy have two twin boys and just entering high school when we filed this case and by the supreme court renders the decision, they will be entering college. their moms still can't get marry. paul and jeff, the other plaintiffs in this case, said they want to be married before they have children. think eve been together more than a d
in fact, the government, political leaders and the courts are catching up where the american public is on this issue. >> let's talk about what pete williams was reporting over the weekend. there are as many as 1,000 different benefits denied to gay partners where gay marriage is not allowed. >> that's exactly right. there are rights and benefits and privileges denied to lgbt, gay and lesbian couples, simply because of who they are. edie and her partner together over 40 years and...
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. >>> a new government commission report finds that exporting the nation's new found surplus of natural gas would do the nation good citing the overall economic boost would outweigh higher domestic prices. >>> and economics team at virginia's lynchburg college crunched the numbers and found if the nation goes over the fiscal cliff, high income californians would beat out new yorkers and hawaiians for the potential highest tax rate at nearly 52%. >>> forbes is out with the 2012 most powerful people list. president obama held on to the top spot for a second year. the pope climbed two notches from last year. he is in fifth place. facebook's ceo mark zuckerburg went to number 25. former president clinton held on to number 50. and tonight be sure to watch brian williams sit down with tim cook. by the way, he's number 35 on the forbes list. >> finally, no, this is no joke. pizza hut in canada sent more than 100 bottles of pizza cented perfume to facebook fans. the fragrance boasts freshly baked hand tossed dough. >>> some optimistic news in the fight against breast cancer. women who took the
. >>> a new government commission report finds that exporting the nation's new found surplus of natural gas would do the nation good citing the overall economic boost would outweigh higher domestic prices. >>> and economics team at virginia's lynchburg college crunched the numbers and found if the nation goes over the fiscal cliff, high income californians would beat out new yorkers and hawaiians for the potential highest tax rate at nearly 52%. >>> forbes is out with...
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that too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people, they just want what my parents had -- a chance. >> i'm joined by congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz tonight, of florida, chairwoman of the dnc. great to have you with us, congresswoman. >> great to be with you, ed, thank. >> now, those are two key players there on the republican party. one was on the ticket, the other was a florida senator. what do you make of this about-face and philosophical change and approach to the middle class. you buying it? >> well, it's not an about-face, not by a long shot. there is not much compassion in either of those conservatives. and you know, i think what mr. ryan and mr. rubio must think is, you know, that movie, "men in black"? there have been three "men in black" movies, and i think one of the coolest things about that movie that most people remember is that little device that erases people's memories. well, i think that paul ryan and marco rubio must believe that all america
that too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people, they just want what my parents had -- a chance. >> i'm joined by congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz tonight, of florida, chairwoman of the dnc. great to have you with us, congresswoman. >> great to be with you, ed, thank. >> now, those are two key players there on the republican party. one was on the ticket, the other was a florida senator. what do you...
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government works now. and why a man such as himself might want a particular job in washington at a time like this. listen to this part of the tape. this is where general petraeus makes his argument for why in particular running the cia would be a really good job to get. >> an awful lot of what we do in the future, believe it or not in libya right now, perhaps, is with that organization can do. we're going to be retrenching militarily. again, you're going to take big budget cuts and that's going to be all about -- it's going to be the post -- sort of the early 1990s kind of stuff. >> it will be the "peace dividend." >> the other folks on the other hand will be in a growth industry in our intelligence community. going to have to be. >> general petraeus telling fox news in this meeting he would be happy not just being named chairman of the joint chiefs, but with the cia director job because they are the same sized jobs or at least they are going to be. arguing that the future of national security in the unite
government works now. and why a man such as himself might want a particular job in washington at a time like this. listen to this part of the tape. this is where general petraeus makes his argument for why in particular running the cia would be a really good job to get. >> an awful lot of what we do in the future, believe it or not in libya right now, perhaps, is with that organization can do. we're going to be retrenching militarily. again, you're going to take big budget cuts and that's...
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certainly don't want the government to do that. so i think that that has really contributed within the party towards this movement. someone like an an dry brightbar was very vocal on this area, very supportive of gay and lesbian republicans, transgender republicans, bisexual republicans, so there's a growing network within the party of folks that recognize culturally where we are and that has very little to do with our politics. >> but the libertarian wing is barely even a wing of the conservative party. i mean -- >> it's not a libertarian wing. it's an attitude. it's the attitude. it's the core attitude. >> they are much more -- are much more wanting to regulate these things, and, you know, the will and grace and the dick cheney are huge -- have had a huge impact on how we look at gay marriage, and, you know, dick durbin was satisfying the future is marriage equality, and i think the future has really galloped along. i mean, it's amazing how far we've come. >> the future is here. >> yeah. >> the future is now. >> yeah. >> it's whe
certainly don't want the government to do that. so i think that that has really contributed within the party towards this movement. someone like an an dry brightbar was very vocal on this area, very supportive of gay and lesbian republicans, transgender republicans, bisexual republicans, so there's a growing network within the party of folks that recognize culturally where we are and that has very little to do with our politics. >> but the libertarian wing is barely even a wing of the...
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but the fact is the government would then have all of this revenue. if it spends that revenue to create jobs and regardless of what the republicans say, government creates jobs all the time from school teachers like your mother to people like my brother who was a ditch digger, and you could get to work because he was out there cleaning the culvert out after a storm. we need a whole lot of jobs created. if the government gets all the revenue and we push it out the door, that will help the economy grow. >> we had an excellent economy under president clinton at those rates. what are we afraid of? >> in fact, more jobs were created in the eight years of bill clinton than the 20 years of reagan and the two bushes. eight years. more than in the other 20. >> david cay johnston, great to have i don't with us tonight. thank you so much. >> you're welcome. >>> there's a lot coming up in the next half hour. stay with us. >> are you proud of what americans for prosperity has achieved this year? >> you bet i am. we're going to do more too. >> the koch brothers mon
but the fact is the government would then have all of this revenue. if it spends that revenue to create jobs and regardless of what the republicans say, government creates jobs all the time from school teachers like your mother to people like my brother who was a ditch digger, and you could get to work because he was out there cleaning the culvert out after a storm. we need a whole lot of jobs created. if the government gets all the revenue and we push it out the door, that will help the...
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government doesn't create jobs. all of a sudden now with the tax increases and the sequester, the automatic spending cuts you have republicans saying my goodness if we engage in this -- if we go over this fiscal cliff we're hurting the job market. it's fascinating to see how they change messages day by day. another example is the increase in the medicare eligibility age. this is a big thing on their wish list. this does not save money. this raises the cost of health care if you look economywide. there's not a good policy reason to do this. but it becomes a trophy. a substantiveless trophy. >> right. okay. julian, boehner's office is denying that they asked for permanent tax cuts for the rich saying any talk of making any rates permanent is moot because part of their offer is doing comprehensive tax reform next year. are you buying that? >> no. i think it's important right now to step back and understand the stage craft that the losing side in these debates always has to go through. i went through two of these negoti
government doesn't create jobs. all of a sudden now with the tax increases and the sequester, the automatic spending cuts you have republicans saying my goodness if we engage in this -- if we go over this fiscal cliff we're hurting the job market. it's fascinating to see how they change messages day by day. another example is the increase in the medicare eligibility age. this is a big thing on their wish list. this does not save money. this raises the cost of health care if you look...